crc95: I have only been to Chicago twice. I was very unimpressed both times. I must admit I have never tried their public transportation. But, in general, public transportation in the USA is deplorable. Boston probably has the worst. Not just the vehicles themselves, but the whole experience - maps/directions/signage/facilities - are horrible to the point of being scary. Then when you factor in the service aspect, including escalators that don't work and a fare system that is archaic and bizzare - together with rude employees - well, you get the picture. LVB has described NYC transit as well. All I can think is you hit the RTA in Chicago at an opportune time. Which reminds me somehow, how about those new electric busses in Lyon - snow white to include even white wheel covers. Those are so quiet that you have to be careful not to walk in front of one. Donerail