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France and America
Submitted by pug2 on August 21, 2005 - 1:06pm.
The relationship between the US and France goes all the way back to the beginning of America. I think that the real problem is that France is too independent for most Americans to swallow. A lot of the problems started all the way back in the '60 s ,France didn't want our bases on their soil. If the French were conspiring with the USSR then the US would have something to worry about. Of course that wasn't the case. America wanted to run the show and France wasn't cooperating. Now all these years later France once again has shown her independence. It's not like France wasn't the only country who wanted to stay out of Iraq, a good number of our friends opted out of this conflict biggest problem was France was right, no one wants to be told "I told you so" now there are hurt feelings on both sides. I love my country that we're there we must somehow install a democratic government. We need the help of our allies for this, but not in combat but in helping to make this country free from terrorism. What a mess!
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I realy wish that the little situatution would change and realise that royals rule the wolrd not communism.They are going to lose to anarchy because the Russians do not believe in the kingdom.They must know the kingdom they must not have controll of wmd because they do not know any royal familys in the world.They do not believe in Royals or kingdoms.That is haw government will lose if the russians dont help the kingdom and dont work for the kingdom but aginst it. the world will lose and be in total anarchy and caos forever.The Russians must believe in the kingdom and work for making kings more powerful and stop anarchy in that sence.Because if Russia communists are realy totally aginst freedom then they should know what freedom and kingdoms are.There are kingdoms as most governments in the world without them it is Freedom.Why are the russians not in the same mood.Why will they not be for the kingdom.Why cant they protect kings and queens and kingdoms? If they dont want freedom then they is what they should be doing why arent they why are they stupidin that sence.Its not fair.They should know better they should know the truth when will they be informed.Or is it because of the little predicament that they dont realy exist and are more transparent that realy there.Still they should know better!Even Russia was once a KINGDOM PRINCESS ANASTASIA!
TRUTH JUSTICE FAIRNESS come on will ya say it!
AMERICA has a plan to FREE the whole world into ANARCHY they are trying to MAKE every country sighn the constitution for WORLD ANARCHY please help and protect all the royal FAMILYS NOW before theSenators take them all out and dine on democract! Please help please protect all the kings in the world now!
Meeting royals is fun Meeting them and dining on them is fun Giving all royals royal gaurds is funner!
God save all the kingdoms.
America loves kings to death.
Peace and love and prospatity for the world not wold Anarchy.ANARCHY and CAOS can not take over the worl the SENATE must be stopped.Its not a joke.World freedom a joke world democracy a joke.
Save the royalf familys or mess them over and its anarchy!
You don't have to worry about Americans who live in coastal cities like L.A., New York and Boston because they tend to be liberal and more intelligent. It's the stupid farmboys in Iowa, Oklahoma and Georgia who are screwing up the world.
Not all Americans are brainwashed by the present regime in Washington, D.C. Check out Air America radio at airamericaradio.com. It's the only truth out there in my country.
I fully intend to move to France, and when permitted, take French citizenship, at which point I will renounce my American citizenship. So there you are.
Lenin banned ALL religion because it interfered with the State. He particularly banned Christianity because the Russian Orthodox church exploited the poor worse than the Romanovs ever did.
I wish someone would ban religion in the United States. Then we'd be able to shut the ultra-nationalists and pro-lifers up.
Americans aren't the problem.
The French aren't the problem.
RELIGION and NATIONALISM are the problems.
They scream at immigrants, stating that they should speak English, but few realize that after 230 years, the United States STILL DOES NOT HAVE AN OFFICIAL LANGUAGE.
Right-wing fools in my country want to yell at the French for their association with Iraq, but conviently forget that Ronald Reagan illegally supplied Saddam Hussein for YEARS.
When the war started, I bought the Tricolor and bought French wine, just to piss my neighbors off-it worked!
By the way, before I bought Louis Jodat, I never realized how good your wine was.
Wow! You make a lot of since! Although you never visit these forums, you often post here. Although you never talk, you always open your mouth. You never make since, but your words produce a lot of since.
Come on! What are you doing: - taking an eastern Philosophy class or something? Or are you just weird.
Why are Russians so evil and Murderers?Why don't they care about people?How could they do such things?How could they be so cruel?
Why are they the badest people in the world when they are suppost to be good?Why don't they Value Valuable things?Why don't they know the real rules?The Declaration of Independance they over threw the king and Queen my past family.The Constitution they are free they have freedom of everything.So to stop Anarchy they have to put the kingdom back in power then why did they ruien the horse gave why did they ruien the real real game all together France ???Why did they give death to the kingdom and kings and queens?That makes them the Queen and King of Half the world Canada and England to.Without them the world is realy Free.If russian hates Freedom then how could they hurt and king ever.Why don't they care?How could they not care?
If they do not know me and I do not know them even their name or never seen them in the pased then Russians have no entitlement to HRH Princess Elizabeth ans HRH Prince Arthor.I want them away from my children I want a restraining order aginst any russian that comes near n=my family ever.I want nothing to ever ever do with a Russian ever.I would give all the love and support to come from the royal family of England Prince Will Charles and Edward.To have all rights to see and be will.The truthis they realy named them.Will named them.He gave him his middle name.Russians all out of America and away from my kids only Will becuase they were born out of the love we shared and the rings we bared.I will always love prince will I will always hate all the Russians.Russians LIE my husbond said he was German anyways.
Save the kingdom save the monarchy to last forever.They kingdom is for eterenity in Heaven the kingdom is forever on earth save the roual family save the kingdom now!I LOVE MY CHILDERN Queen Elizabeth and King Arthor.
From now on clean it up.Soap in the mouth.The talking has to be good talking peace.Peace.PEACE RUSSIA! What is wrong nothing great.PEACE.Be NICE BE NICE PEACE.Will someone please make everything say peace?Will someone please make RUSSIA PEACEFUL PLEASE?Please make say peace.It can 't not be legal to go up to everyone and kill them.They must be stopped.Russians have to say only peace and practice only peace.I don't care about anything else they Still have to be peaceful people on this world.From now on only say nice things and peaceful thing its good for you.
I hate Russians they Nuked everything we need help they are flying planes over everyone everywhere and just bombing every one and everything with no warnings no demands no feelings.The Russians are horrible they are the bad guys.Don't believe it when they say they are good guys they are bad guys mean people. The worst crime you can committ is murder.War is to be fought in a battle Fiels between armies not women and children at home.It is For Army MEN and Battle Fields.There is no excuse.Still they have to be stopped.Please make them stop. I wish so much Russia and the Russians would die and get nuked off the earth! I hate them.They are wierd and dont believe in anything but death.I can't stand their talking anymore death die death.NO more speak Russian.They are serious to.I hate them they have Took the wmd out of Iraq saying they were the U.N. but France is a part of the U.N. also. No one said they could just bomb and ruien everything that was so Valueable.They ruiened everything that people Valued and needs and loves the most.They Ruiened the BEST of everything.When we say please not there they NUKE ther no matter if its an important building or families.Families at home people at work.Putin is a jerk evil mean creature from hell. There is never ever any excuse for bombing innocent people in their homes ever.I can't believe Russians are even alive and walking around with themselves after what they have done its sick.I wish the Russians would die.
Please will someone stop the Russians from NUKING all of America into the biggest hole in the ground ever please right now?Please help the people please help people.Stop Russia.
They can't be Christians or Catholics.They can't even have a religon.If they trueley believed in the bible then they would be filled with the holy ghost and they could never ever be so horrible and cruel and mean.If they beileved in the bible and had a religon then they would know and believe in the kingdom the monarchy and the king god of Heaven.They must have not had any freedom of religon in Russia and no one in Russia is a good person because they don't believe in the bible.The Russians must have freedom of Religon and they all must be Christians and so they can be good people.They are liars don't be fooled the Communists are bad guys they are NOT Christians.They have to follow the 10 cammandments out of the Bible they have to be Christians they don't know the Bible they dont practice the 10 cammandments.Like though shall not kill!Thow shall not committ adultry.Thow shall not covet.Thow shall not steel.They are not christians they are devil worshipers mureders.help!
They must be on drugs or high on French wine for posting such drivel!
I miss the wit of donerail and crc!
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They only got the weapons for world peace to stop all WMD use in the world and they are using aginst the USA with no relief or remorse please hepl stop PUTIN HELP.
Home towns are not war zones how could they they have no feeling HELP its not even normal for anyone to ever do such a thing how could they make them stop right NOW HELP HURRY MAKE the WMDS STOP NOW on USA.PLease Nothing ever ever is worth this nothing ever could ever cause this stop the russians please stop them now.
Why cant they wse them in a war zone like IRAQ where all the women are coverd and out of harms way they are back stabbers they cant do this HELP NOE s.o.s.!! S.O.S HELP us please stop Russians now please help help please.Never in History has this ever ever happened China would never do this to the US even that war was in the far off jungle away from communitys never ever is this legal in any UN respect of Humanity. HELP.
I asked you for help to stop Putin and the Russains before Yasser Arafal HELP HELP stop the evil Russians Help.
Who cares about any relations between countries this is not worth anything ever nothing could ever in history or now could ever be this bad ever nothing. This just can not happen Help the USA help.This is the worst thing that could ever ever happen stop the russians stop Moscow Cremlin stop President PUTIN he is the most horrible person ever please help USA HELP!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHELP the pain is unbearable help please help the USA France cant stand for this no one can Help Help Help help help help help help help help stop RUSSANS from Using WMDs on innocent people in their home town communitys now HELP please make them stop right now!All Russians in jail!
They wanted us to believe in them but they dont believe in anything no body nothing they dont believe in the monarchy at all dont believe in them they are just plain KILLERS stop the Russians now please!They dont believe in kings or Queens they are just evil killers dont believe in anything they ever say just stop them murderers HELP!STOP THEM from ever bombing the USA ever again Please stop them right now Please please please stop them right now NOW STOP THEM NOW PLEASE STOP THEM NOW france please help please help please help!Get thoes weapons out of terrorists killers hands stop the Russians please HELP NOW HELP NOW HELP NOW HURRY WE NEED HELP PLEASE HELP US PLEASE HELP US help now please now now now help please!WMDs are for a war zone not women and children at home help S.O.S help please help now!
They are making everything worse rubble and big holes they arent helping they are making everything so much worse HELP stop them now!HELP HELP IM sorry for everything I ever said bad about USA but nothing is ever worth this ever help!
If they want to go to war with the USA why cant they do it in IRAQ? Where there are armed soldgers ready to fight the WMDS not innocent people at their home town communitys they can not do this please help.Why cant they be real humans and stick to real humanitarian ethics of war?They have to! They dont believe in anything HELP STOP THEM I MEAN NOW HURRY FAST STOP THEM> Make them pick a real fight and pick on people that want to fight they are back stabbers cowards horrible evil people stop them now please make them give warning so we can evacuate not purposley just kill off all our communitys and not let us run away with our families please HELP PLEASE HELP Stop Russians from ever USING WMDS EVER AGAIN HELP HOW COULD THEY PLEASE TELL ME HOW COULD THEY? I never imagined in all the world that they would ever ever do such a thing ever I never ever imagined Russiand white people to act so terrable ever.I thought they would make peace and just stop all wmd use in the world forever I never imagined in my wildest nightmare that any one would ever ever do such a thing help stop them now.Stop Moscow Russia and the Cremlin and PUTIN PLEASE NOW HELP!
The Russians are crazy they cant bomb women and children and everyone at home with no warrnings or demands PLEASE HELP!! NOW HELP NOW HELP USA NOW FROM RUSSIANS HELP PLEASE HELP.
WMD are for war zones like Iraq where all the women and children are hidden and out of harms way not communitys where people are happy and peaceful and just want to live their lifes without interference and killer russians HELP HELP HELP NOW FRANCE S.O.S.
They bombed the hell out of Venice not just once but over and over and over and never stopped all day HELP.L.A.And we tried to run away and the bomber planes followed us and just kept bombing and bombing with no relief not carring who they kill or where HELP S.O.S HELP SOS!
They still are help now in save us please save us please save us please stop the russians they are horrible stop the russias!!There is no where to run they have no mercy HELP PLEASE HELP.
There is a Hole bigger than 911 in Venice and everything else is holes and rubble everything not once but for 2 years constantly HELP I HATE RUSSIOANS STOP THEM HELP US SOS.
STOP PRESIDENT PUTIN!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAhelp!!!
Sorry its so bad just stop the russiand for peace!!!
- Viet-Nam was a former french colony and seeing the USA involving into it had not been seen in a good way.
- At that time, communism was also popular amongst the students, and particulary Maoism (French philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre was backing up this movement at that time). A war against communist forces was so condamned by a strong minority of the french population.
Nevertheles, the singer Michel Sardou is still popular and he goes on singing.
To understand well that song, we have to replace it on the year it was sung.
In 1967, it had been about 5 years since France had his own atomic bomb. This weapon was the result of a policy of independance initiated in the 50's during the 4th Republic and then reinforced by French President General De Gaulle. Its aim was to have our own mean of dissuasion against "any sate from any direction" (regardless whether it came from East or West). In that way, it ensured us a particular weight on the international plan. From the USA, this was seen as betrayal.
Moreover, one year before, in 1966, following its policy of independance, France left the NATO military integrated command driving away the US troops based in France.
On the social point of view, in France begun the sentiment of a crisis that exploded one year later, in 1968. This movement was a need for freedom asked both by teenagers and women (in 1966 was introduced the contraceptive pill). French old traditional society was in figth against the young people, the students, who surely were inspired by the free american way of living.
So this song may have been seen as a provocation against the good order and the efforts to regain pre-war weight and power.
I guess the french-american discord is older then most people realize.
Is it still boycotted today?
If the Yankees weren't here
You would all be in Germania
Talking about something or other
Saluting somebody or other
Of course years have gone
The guns have changed hands
Is that a reason for forgetting
That one day we needed them
A guy coming from Georgia
That really didn't give a damn about you
Has come to die in Normandy
On a morning when you weren't there
Of course years have gone
We have become mates
At the shots' association
They say they fell for nothing
If the Yankees weren't here
You would all be in Germania
Talking about something or other
Saluting somebody or other
American soldiers during wwII. Could anyone please translate?
Thanks
Vous seriez tous en Germanie
A parler de je ne sais quoi
A saluer je ne sais qui
Bien sûr les années ont passé
Les fusils ont changé de mains
Est-ce une raison pour oublier
Qu'un jour on en a eu besoin
Un gars venu de Géorgie
Qui se foutait pas mal de toi
Est v'nu mourir en Normandie
Un matin où tu n'y étais pas
Bien sûr les années ont passé
On est devenus des copains
A l'amicale du fusillé
On dit qu'ils sont tombés pour rien
Si les ricains n'étaient pas là
Vous seriez tous en Germanie
A parler de je ne sais quoi
A saluer je ne sais qui
Michel Sardou - 1967
Pug2 - I just hope you will understand the lyrics of that song that was boycotted on its time. Unfortunatly I don't know that much English to translate it in a right way... (ust a clue for you if you don't know it : the "ricains" is an abbreviation for "américains" with a bit of irony.)
Oh, don't worry about your french teacher. I've read some posts here written in french by supposed teachers , and they were making as much mistakes as I do in english...see...The most important is to try. just look at the penpals forum, and you'll see that you've no shame to have about your french.
Jak: à quoi veux tu jouer mon ami?
Montjoly.
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